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  FOX News    The O Reilly Factor    News/Business.  (2011)  (CC)  

    July 21, 2011
    5:00 - 6:00am EDT  

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life -- an everyday miracle of survival. today, the future of all life on earth hangs in the balance. what happens next depends on us. jason mraz: ♪ well, open up your mind and see like me ♪ ♪ open up your plans and, damn, you're free ♪ ♪ look into your heart and you'll find ♪
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♪ love, love, love, love ♪ listen to the music ♪ of the moment, people, dance and sing ♪ ♪ we're just one big family ♪ look into your heart and you'll find ♪ ♪ that the sky is yours ♪ so please don't, please don't, please don't ♪ ♪ there's no need to complicate ♪ ♪ 'cause our time is short ♪ this is, this is, this is our fate ♪ ♪ i'm yours [ singing scat ]
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>> 22 minutes and 50 seconds until space shuttle atlantis touches down in florida and you looked at some of that video. it went viral, showed you a number of men and women from nasa holding up signs just before this particular mission launched thanking people for all of their support through the 30 years of the space shuttle program. >> and mission control, you're seeing splitting the screen with the countdown clock and you find out that the astronauts as well as those who work for the control center around are really tight. i mean, they socialize afterwards. they're responsible for each other, their families hang out together and they go to the same schools together so this is truly your family. this isn't just you in the sky but them on the ground. >> it's so poignant to see the messages written there with the music. we need to get back to more earthbound matters, more earthly problems and that, of course, is politics and the debt deal. you know. >> this is a bummer.
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>> there may be something that is -- there may be a breakthrough. that's the gang of six deal. which is dead in water and now has been revived and may be the solution but, of course, as we told you yesterday. there's a problem in that there's a sort of conceptual deal but the details of it haven't been worked out and that's where the problem may lie. >> and you don't have enough time to get that three page document, that outline into becoming a piece of legislation that has to be debated, hashed out. even the gang of six admits we don't have a lot of the details. it's all based off that -- the deficit commission that was really done with their work right after the election in the fall of last year. so if you can't get it done in the short term, what do you do in the short term? might we have a short-term deal? >> yeah, karl rove writes today in "the wall street journal" that he suggests that what happens next is that the house of representatives on the victory of the cut, cap and balance which was passed a couple of days ago, they go
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ahead and figure out a plan b essentially where they take the $1.5 trillion that was agreed to by both sides in the biden talks and say, short-term deal, let's put this forward. let's make these kind of cuts for a little while to buy a little time because he's -- as karl said last night on hannity, no chance a deal can be done in these final days. >> the gang of six, we don't even know what the proposal is. it's vague. they haven't put out a piece of paper on it. what they've talked about has some good points and some bad points. but it is complex and it requ e requires a lot of legislation and the devil will be in the details. there's no way in the 12 days before the august 2nd debt ceiling deadline that this kind of complex legislation can be written let alone discussed, debated, refined and brought up for a vote. >> now, remember, the president had said he was not interested in all in short-term deal.
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in fact, that was reportedly what he walked out of the meeting over when eric cantor suggested maybe we should do some sort of stop gap, short term measure, the president got so miffed that he decided to walk out of the room but now that it looks like this deal is looming, if both sides are agreeing to make compromises, let's listen to what the white house spokesman had to say about it. >> we would not support a short term extension absent an agreement to a larger deal. that's not acceptable. obviously if both sides agree to something significant, we will support the measures needed to finalize the details of that. >> so he had to pull off. pull off that statement, so to speak because if there's a promise of additional cuts, but that's going to have to be hard and fast. >> right. we're never going to go back to this. what's the short term? six months? in six months, the election is going to be even closer and i think both sides more partisan. >> both sides met with the president yesterday and apparently, according to "the
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washington post," after boehner went to capitol hill, he talked to a number of freshmen republicans and they're trying to figure out the way to go forward from here. what they're waiting for is to see what the senate does with cut, cap and balance because the house of representatives may not be able to pass the gang of six thing. they like cut, cap and balance. what is the senate going to do? it's in harry reid's court. >> in session, we hear, on saturday. meanwhile in our 8:00 hour east coast time, we'll have a gang of six member here for you so we'll ask him directly what they plan to do and if they're going to be able to move forward with this momentum. meanwhile, let's get to the rest of the headlines. we have more news to tell you about. another seven months before army psychiatrist nadal hasan stands trial for the murder of 18 people including a pregnant woman at fort hood, texas in 2009. during a 10 minute hearing yesterday at the base, hasan announced that he fired his civilian lawyer in favor of a
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military defense team and elected to is a jury of army officers decide his fate. >> he called florida congresswoman debbie wasserman-schultz vial, despicable and cowardly, now congressman allen west is denying reports that he apologized for the reports even though he's heard sort of apologizing to a tape. listen to this. >> 22 years. >> what does that mean? that you -- >> you just apologized? >> uh-huh. >> west's office says he was absolutely not apologizing to the contrary. the congressman wants wasserman-schultz to apologize to him for calling him a sexist in 2010. >> update on the latest bust to a chrysler union parking lot. fox finding workers smoking dope and drinking beer before heading
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to the factory to build cars. fantastic. all nine workers have been identified and suspended indefinitely without pay. >> did you say smoking dope? >> yes, i did. thank you. i'm on the mod squad. >> ok, grandma. it happened again, two kids trying to earn some money are told to shut down their lemonade stand. now their grandma has to pay up. stephanie and tristan set up their stand in a park in texas but a code enforcement officer told them they needed a permit. not only did the officer close the stand down but slapped the kids' grandmother a $50 fine. they were just trying to raise money for their hermit crab. >> likely excuse. >> no kidding. >> the shuttle landing is about 15 minutes from now. it's closing the door on the space mission that started with john f. kennedy. >> we choose to go to the moon and do the other things. not because they are easy but
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because they are hard. because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we're willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone and one we intend to win. >> there he launches the space race which we won. but would j.f.k. have approved of president obama's current plans for outer space exploration? ed farnan is a conservative columnist and joins us live from san francisco. good morning to you, ed. >> good morning, steve. >> fine, thank you very much. we should point out that the space shuttle will land in 15 minutes. folks will see it live right here. i read your column for irish central and you say that john f. kennedy would never let this happen, the end of manned space flights here in the united states. >> that's true. kennedy was a very charismatic leader that inspired our country to go beyond its limitations and
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was always pushing us forward and space was the place where the frontier that we really needed to explore. he never would have let this happen. we would have a next generation of manned flight taking is up into space right now. >> right, but the current president of the united states, george w. bush said let's go back to the moon, go to mars and go way out there but this president pulled the plug on it because he said it's not worth the money. >> well, i don't agree and i don't think a lot of americans agree. we were -- when president kennedy had us go to the moon, that inspired us and we need to keep doing that. it's probably something that doesn't seem like it's worth the money to some but that's where our future is. and a great leader would have us up there and manned flight going to the moon and going to the other planets. >> you know, ed, the irony is going forward that if we want to go up to the international space
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station we're going to have to hitch a ride with the russians, the so-called evil empire which john f. kennedy absolutely hated. >> exactly. and i think they're charging us between $50 and $60 million per astronaut. that would buy an awful lot of space shuttle fuel for our own space shuttles or other craft to get us up there. >> right. >> it's ironic that july 20, 1969 which is when we landed one moon and july 21st, is our last space shuttle. very ironic. >> very ironic and bitter sweet as we count down to the shuttle landing. when you look at manned space flight in this country, it is, as you mentioned inspirational. it's what those movies are made about and stuff like that. now what? >> well, that's the thing, steve, is that when you have a great leader that knows how to inspire the country and unite us, we can work together.
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we can do anything. and that's what president kennedy did. even though his life was cut short, he had a vision for us. and we worked together and attained the unattainable and we need to -- we need to have that vision again right now. we don't have that. we're adrift and we do not have a common goal. once we have a common goal, the american public can do anything. our country can attain anything and john kennedy demonstrated that spirit to us. >> well, we've had a fantastic 50 years in space with america's manned space flight program that ends today. just about 12 minutes from right now. ed from irish central where he is columnist, thank you very much for getting up really early out there in san francisco. >> thank you, steve. >> you bet. >> all right. so we are awaiting, of course, the landing of the shuttle atlantis. here is the graphic right now. it is tracking the shuttle. and you can see that it is, well
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-- >> 50 miles. >> no, more -- is it 50? >> 100. >> 150 miles. >> 450. it's going fast. >> 450 miles away. >> do i hear 600? >> from florida. where it is -- let's listen. >> ok. h had>> ok. they're being very quiet. >> the fly dynamics officer here in mission control reports atlantis is perfectly targeted for the kennedy space center. time to touchdown 11 minutes. everything looking very good on board the orbiter. >> by the way, the weather down in florida is perfect right now. >> yes. >> that was nice to hear that everything is looking perfect for the landing. >> now, back with us is tom jones, he's been through this before as a former nasa astronaut. and this will be the last time
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and also standing by is phil keating telling us what's going to be happening on the ground and how we're preparing for the landing of atlantis. first off, tom, we're pretty close. 400 plus miles. seems far away but not for the space shuttle, right? >> no, you know, you're still supersonic at this point and covering that ground and eating it up very quickly, about 10 minutes they'll be overhead spiralling down to the final approach. this is when the cockpit crew feels the sense of time accelerate. it's very exciting inside. it's like going down a dirt road in a dump truck. >> how much -- >> a little bumpy. >> tom, how much of the landing is actually done by computers vs. a person? >> well, it's autopilot, steve, all the way from the indian ocean over to this point. as they get overhead as they drop into subsonic speed at 600 miles an hour, that's when chris ferguson, the commander takes over flying through his control stick. >> by the way, if you are in
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naples, florida, right now look up because the space shuttle is going over your hometown. >> bonita springs dog track. >> is this a heart pounding adrenalin rush at this moment? are they so used to this they're calm? what's going on inside? >> professionally calm, inwardly exhilarated and the adrenalin is pumping, the commander has to make a perfect landing on the first try. everybody else out in the cabin is trying to help him with the check list. he's focused on the guidance commands from the computers now. >> phil, we have a predawn shot here. we'll be looking up into as you turn around and try to catch the space shuttle, will you be able to see anything? >> phil and i were talking, we hope we'll be able to see it glowing in the coming sunrise.
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>> it's pretty dark. anti-climactic after a 30 year program, april 12, 1981, that the final landing won't be visually more enthralling but we'll have a nice sight in a couple of minutes, we'll see the international space station by the presunrise sky here so it's going to be a little double event for us, 2,000 members of the media here with the landing site right now. >> nasa for the next 10 years. >> so we're getting its coordinates right now. it's west of lake okeechobee. i think that's how you pronounce it and less than eight minutes away. what's the crowd like there, phil? >> the crowd is very excited. it's the largest crowd i have ever seen for a landing. typically, the landings are really not nearly the experience that a launch is, the launchs are so loud, so bright, the flame is so long. but this time it's the last landing and it's a packed,
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record sized crowd here of 2,000 people at the landing facility. lot of vip's and lots of buses here and multiple satellite trucks from as far away as japan, all that capture this very historic landing. the landing track has it going past lake okeechobee and then it's going to cruise around to the east off the coastline of florida and then loop around from the northeast and then come landing down so where we're standing, it's going to be coming down screen right to you. most likely it will be very dark but you'll hear that big double clap sonic boom. about two minutes from now. >> and speaking of the sonic boom, right now, in the last minute, tom, it has slowed from six times the speed of sound to four times the speed of sound. is it that big turn that slows it down enough to go ahead and land the thing? >> it's actually the fact that the shuttle is this broad winged barn door flying with its nose up through the sky and the on
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rush of air is what's slag draging it down into the lower atmosphere. they're angling, the angle of attack, the angle that the shuttle's nose makes it to the horizon right now trying to slow down. you actually are pressed into your seat with 1.5 times the force of gravity. feels like four times the force of gravity right now. >> after all these landings i've covered, the big s turns that all the literature provide is really not exactly what it's doing. it's more tipping the wings down. >> dropping the wing to drop lower to the atmosphere to increase the drag and slow you down more. >> good to know that in time for the final landing. >> yeah. >> did you just hear it? we understand that it should be overhead right now. it's starting to make that big turn. >> just in about a minute, i think, steve, we'll hear the sonic booms and they're out over the coast now coming over in front of us. >> filing around to the left. >> tom, is this considered -- is atlantis considered the blue
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chip vessel of the entire fleet? >> i'm sorry, brian. spotted it. i think that's allowed without a telescope. is atlantis considered the blue chip vessel out of the entire fleet? >> atlantis is not the newest ship but one of the most hard working of the space shuttles. it came on in 1985 and been in most of the highlights of the shuttle program throughout the last 25 years so it's got a storied history behind it. it was my last ship where we brought one of the major elements to the international space station. >> tom, i don't know if you have a screen right there but obviously, this is the point of view from the atlantis. is this looking straight out the front window? >> that's right. they shifted to a camera that gave you the pilot's eye view. they're flying into a black hole. there's not a lot of lights here on the atlantic coast and cape canaveral. they're looking for the flashing beacon as they bank left to come in for a final approach. >> we understand that shot was over the shoulder of the pilot,
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doug hurley. i don't know if you felt the camera shot. >> that little dot in the center of the screen is the shuttle atlantis coming home for the final time. history, folks, so let's go live now to mission control and listen to the end of an era. coming straight on right now.
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>> commander chris ferguson now flying atlantis 3 1/2 minutes until touchdown. piercing the predawn skies, the space shuttle announces its approach of the landing site with the twin sonic booms for the last time.
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>> atlantis on at the 180. >> at the 180. >> pilot doug hurley now taking a few seconds of stick time on atlantis. with a fitting elegance for its final flight atlantis takes one last lap around the kennedy space center. >> atlantis on at the 90.
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>> on at the 90. >> commander chris ferguson now back on the stick. atlantis descending at an angle seven times steeper than that of a commercial jetliner. >> happy atlantis, in sight. >> as it approaches the runway, commander chris ferguson will flare up atlantis' nose to burn off excess speed prior to the landing gear deployment by pilot doug hurley.
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once again, the view from the pilot point of view camera, one minute until touchdown. the preflare maneuver executed. landing gear down and locked.
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main gear touched down. hurley now deploying the drag chute. ferguson rotating the nose gear down to the deck. nose gear touchdown. having fired the imagination of a generation, a ship like no other, its place in history secured, the space shuttle pulls into port for the last time. its voyage at an end.
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>> for over 30 years, the space shuttle found its place in history and it's come to a final stop. >> we copy you will stop and we'll take this opportunity to congratulate you, atlantis, as well as the thousands of passionate individuals across this great space fairing nation who truly empowered this incredible spacecraft which for three decades has inspired millions around the globe. job well done, america. >> thanks. great work. great words. you know, space shuttle changed the way we view the world and it's changed the way we view our universe. a lot of emotion today but one thing is indisputable, america is not going to stop exploring. thank you, our ship atlantis, thank you for protecting us and bringing this program to such a fitting end. god bless the united states of
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america. >> inspiring comments, atlantis. we'll meet you on 5-3. >> see you there. >> you've been watching live there with us the final touchdown of the space shuttle program and such poignant words spoken by the pilots and those at mission control about the end of this era. it was a picture perfect landing. >> yeah, i mean, think about what they accomplished, what they've seen. i mean, nixon comes out in 1972 and says this space shuttle program, i've seen enough potential here, we're going to put into action. by the time ronald reagan takes office, get used to the shuttle flights, the two major disasters that we all went through and then the picture perfect final landing which makes you wonder in many respects why we're actually stopping when we don't have another way to get up. >> we just heard from the pilot, doug hurley, talk about how america will continue